Category Archives: Young family

Poor spelling!

I am always really grateful whenever I find transcriptions online. I feel really sorry for any volunteer that gives their time to read old records.

I came across a transcription of marriages in Elson, Gosport which included that of my grand-parents:

page 46 no 92 September 14 1929 Hery Harper YOUNG 32 Bachelor Salesman Fort House Elson & Kate Margaret BEGER 24 Spister Fort House Elson married after banns fathers Mansel YOUNG  Retired & George James BENGER Mechanic  in the presece of G J BENGER & W ANDERSON

My grandfather’s name was Henry Harper Young and my grandmother was Viola Margaret Benger and was a spinster. I think I would have used my judgement to change spister to spinster!

Baptism of Mansel Young

For years I didn’t know the birth date of Mansel Young. Tonight I was googling names and came across a transcription of his baptism record as well as a pdf of the original record:

Parish Church of St Peter, Dublin

Baptism of MANSEL YOUNG of 2 APPIAN WAY on 6 October 1854

born 14 September 1854

Address 2 Appian Way

Father Alfred Young

Mother Selina Elizabeth Courtenay Young

Father occupation Lieutenant Royal Navy

It’s so lovely to have filled this little gap of information and find the place as well! I had a look on google maps and the house they lived in is still there and looks very smart!

Griffiths Valuation of Ireland

I’ve heard of the Griffiths Valuation of Ireland before and I know they can be quite useful for family historians but that’s all I know.

Somehow I came across the following reference for Killea, County Waterford –

Young Matthew Dunmore Killea Waterford

no dates or amount just an entry

I’m sure this is significant I’m just not sure what it really means or how I can find out more. Presumably it relates to Matthew Young (1786-1855)  who was a Commander in the Royal Navy. Another thing to add to my ‘to do’ list.

 

Smashing brick walls

I seem to have a few brick walls in my family and I love nothing better than smashing them down. I’m not sure if there are more female than male brick walls, I shall have to make a list someday, but I’ll tell you about my latest breakthrough.

Catherine Young was the wife of Mansel Young. For many years I only knew a couple of facts about her that were due to the birth records of her sons and the 1901 census.

These facts are:

Catherine Young, nee Carroll

Born in Macroom, Cork, Ireland around 1857 – need to find a birth certificate

Married between 1891 and 1895 (as she was not married at the time of the 1891 census and her first son was born in 1895) – need to find a wedding certificate

Her first son Alfred Mansel Young was born at 13 Broad Street, Southsea on 31 May 1895

Her second son Henry Harper Young was born at 37 Addison Road, Southsea on the 8 June 1897

At the time of the 1901 census she was living with her family at 2 Woodland Cott, Woodland St, Portsmouth

Her name didn’t appear in the 1911 census so I knew she had died between 1901 and 1911. It has literally taken me years but I’m pleased to say I finally found her death mentioned as she was listed on freebmd and I ordered the certificate online for £9.25.

She died on 24th February 1909 at the Royal Portsmouth Hospital. The cause of death was strangulated femoral hernia and exhaustion.

How to use the British Newspaper Archive

I rarely buy family history magazines anymore but whilst we were on holiday last month I picked up one to read. There was an article about the British Newspaper Archive which sounded interesting so I signed up online and received 15 free credits (which equated to 3 page views).

I tried a couple of simple searches with no luck and was pretty disappointed at the results which seemed illegible. The original newspapers are scanned, converted to a JPEG2000 format for archive purposes, and then run through an optical character recognition (OCR) process which creates the electronic text. This means that the text isn’t read by a human so the words are made live on the website even if they don’t make sense, i.e. ‘MISS SELINA RANCE,n ttends bhtre Gret Lodon Serio-Comic. treet, ‘ Continued Engagement of the Universil Favourites and ge, ou Star Duettists.’ So you need to do a bit of detective work!

I then tried some searches for some of the middle and upper class members of my tree, in particular Selina Elizabeth Courtenay Mansel, as I noticed I didn’t have a date of her marriage to Alfred Young.

On the second page of results was for a notice of their marriage in the Hampshire Telegraph, dated Saturday 27 July 1850:

Young-Mansel  On the 16th inst., at the Collegiate Church of St Nicholas, Galway, by the Rev J Macready , Alfred Young Esq. Lieutenant R.N. grandson of the late Bishop of Clonfert , to Selina Elizabeth Courtenay, only child of Captain Thomas Mansel, R.N. , and grandchild of the late Sir William Mansel , Bart., of Iscoed, Wales.

I’m really glad I persevered with searching as I doubt I would ever have found a record of their marriage. I can see how easy it would be to become addicted to this site! I also found an entry for the death of Admiral Thomas Mansel in the Morning Post, 7th April 1869.

Peninsula War Prisoner of War records

According to his entry in the British Naval Biographical Dictionary, 1849, Matthew Young

“On 20 Oct. 1807, while in charge of a prize Indiaman, … was captured by the enemy and taken to France, where he was detained a prisoner until May, 1814.”

This intriguing little nugget throws up some interesting questions.

Such as are there any records of PoWs from this time and was he entitled to a medal for his imprisonment?

His son, Alfred Young, was apparently born in 1811 in Verdun, France.