Category Archives: Young family

Alfred Young 1811-1861

Posted on July 28, 2022 | Leave a comment

I have been trying to find out more about the death of Alfred Young who died aged only 50.

His place of death was recorded as Priory Fratton in Portsmouth. I wondered if this might be a workhouse or similar – today it is a school.

This evening I managed to find a record of his Will in Ireland, Calendar of Wills and Administrations, 1858-1920 held by National Archives Ireland. The record is dated 1866, 5 years after his death.

The record shows his effects were under £100 in England and Ireland. “Letters of Administration Intestate herein granted at the District Registry at Winchester 8 February 1866. Resealed at the Principle Registry Dublin 14 April 1866. ”

I’m not sure why this needed to be recorded in Ireland.

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Searching the collections of Royal Museums Greenwich

Posted on July 24, 2022 | Leave a comment

A few days ago I decided to google some names I was researching. Years ago I found a record of Alfred Young’s marriage in Ireland. Stupidly I failed to take a copy of the record and cannot find it online any more. I am trying to be more careful and make copies and scans of all my records to keep them safe.

I love the fact there are still so many records to be found! I was lucky and found more records by searching the collections of Royal Museums Greenwich. There I found ADL/Z/19:

Commissions of Staff Cdr Henry Harper, Capt Thomas Mansel and Lt Alfred Young, and other documents.

Commissions and appointments of Staff Cdr Henry Harper, 4 Dec 1843-16 Feb 1865; Commission of Capt Thomas Mansel (1783-1869), 12 Feb 1834; Commission of Lt Alfred Young, 1 Jul 1858; Letter from Henry Elliott, War Office, to Mrs Macdermott of Fitzroy Square regarding a compassionate allowance, 14 Aug 1815; Printed programme and poem relating to the Spithead Naval Review in honour of the Sultan of Turkey, 17 Jul 1867; ‘The Military and Naval Medal Magazine’, Vol 1 No 1, Oct 1895.

I am interested in the records relating to Thomas Mansel and Alfred Young, whom I’m directly related to. I’m also intrigued by the name Henry Harper, as this is the name given to my grandfather, the grandson of Alfred Young. I always wondered where it came from and it looks like I might find out.

I have contacted the Royal Museums Greenwich and am hoping I can purchase a scan of the records they hold, or try and visit in person. You can search their collections by archive, objects or their library.

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National Probate Calendar entry for Alfred Young 1866

Posted on July 22, 2022 | Leave a comment

I discovered this record from the National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 for Alfred Young who died in 1861.

I wonder why it took 5 years for his widow to claim this?

It also gives new information as to her address is 1866 as Florence Cottage, Florence Road, New Southsea, Portsea.

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Prisoners of war records – Matthew Young

Posted on July 18, 2022 | Leave a comment

Matthew Young was in the Royal Navy and on 20th October 1807, while in charge of a prize Indiaman, was captured by the enemy and taken to France. He was detained a prisoner until May 1814. His son Alfred was born in Verdun, in 1811.

Findmypast.co.uk. hold selected prisoners of war records from 1715-1945. These records are predominantly of British prisoners of war. These are selected digitised records from a variety of record collections held at The National Archives, including Foreign Office, Colonial Office, Admiralty and Air Force collections.

I knew they should include a record of Matthew Young who was a British Prisoner of War between 1807-1814. I found there was only one record for Matthew Young dating from this period so I paid a one off fee to download the record.

It showed that Matthew Young was a Lieutenant. I believe the book was compiled in 1811 during the Napoleonic Wars. He was from the ship Thames and the Depot or Place of Parole was Verdun. I’m not sure what this document is

(https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FPOW-GALLIP%2F15-0273_GB-SRY_ADMIRALTY-NAPOLEONIC-PRISONERS-OF-468-PART-1-1798-1812%2F00572&parentid=GBM%2FPOW-GALLIP-NAP%2F40655606)

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Henry Young 1921 census

Posted on February 2, 2022 | Leave a comment

I was a little surprised to discover my paternal grandfather was recorded as a visitor with the Underhill family in Glamorgan on the night of the 1921 census.

I think I’ve mentioned before that there was a connection between this family and my grandfather. I found a letter in my grandmothers possession on the death of my grandfather calling him and Tom Underhill ‘brothers’. Although they were not related by birth (that I can uncover) there was clearly some connection that I will now not find.

I found my great uncle Alfred Young staying with the family on the night of the 1911 census. Sadly he died during the First World War.

My grandfather’s occupation is listed as Tailor’s Assistant, Read and Company, Portsmouth (out of work).

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Mansel Young 1921 census

Posted on February 1, 2022 | Leave a comment

My paternal great-grandfather Mansel Young was at home on the night of the 1921 census. His home was 6 Woodland Street, Kingston, Portsmouth. This house still exists today (thanks google maps!) and is just behind St Mary’s Church.

I love the fact that I can see my ancestor’s handwriting on the front cover of the Schedule.

I wonder if he lived alone? His house had 4 rooms and at this time he was a widower, his occupation is recorded as a retired Dockyard Labourer, at the Navel Store Department in Portsmouth. He had two sons, one had died during the First World War, and the other son is marked as a visitor staying with John Underhill in Bridgend, Wales.

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