Category Archives: Royal Navy

Notes on executor’s application for money owed by the Royal Navy

My family history research has been quite quiet lately, real life takes precedence at the moment.

A couple of weeks ago I noticed there was free access of Ancestry which always makes me spend a little time searching for any useful information. As is often the case I didn’t find any new leads but I somehow ended up on the TNA website where I found a couple of possible records for Matthew Young:

ADM 45/34/477 (available to purchase)
Number: 477 Matthew Young, Commander Royal Navy, who died: 1 September 1855. Notes on executor’s application for money owed by the Royal Navy.
1855

ADM 9/8/2650 (not digitised)
Name: Matthew Young; Rank: Lieutenant; Date of Seniority: 13 Feb 1806.

ADM 6/242/6 (not digitised)
Greenwich out-pensioners applying for admission into Greenwich Hospital as in-pensioners (after service in the Royal Navy, Royal Marines or the Naval Dockyards)
1835 February 5

I purchased the first record as it was the only one available in digital format. There wasn’t much information on it but as above, it is Notes on executor’s application for money owed by the Royal Navy.

Matthew Young died on 10th September 1855. On the 24th September 1855 a claim was made by Charlotte Young, of Dunmore East, Killea, County of Waterford who was the Executress of his estate.

Apparently he had a will dated 2nd June 1854, it would be really interesting to get hold of this.

I’m not really sure what the outcome of this document means, there are a few dates on the form but they are pretty meaningless to me.

Findmypast.co.uk adds details of Royal Navy ships destroyed during WW1

Leading family history website, findmypast.co.uk has published some fascinating new military records online, in partnership with The National Archives.

Over 500 British Royal Navy ships were lost at sea during the First World War. Thanks to these new records, you can now discover more about the vessels that were destroyed.

The WW1 Ships Lost at Sea records are available on all findmypast websites and can provide the following information:

·         Ship name
·         Date it was destroyed
·         Number of officers killed or wounded
·         How and where it was destroyed

For more information and to search the records, please visit http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-united-kingdom-records/military-armed-forces-and-conflict/ww1-ships-lost-at-sea-1914-1919

Admiral Mansel (photograph)

My creative writing course is going really well although I am struggling to fit in the work around normal life. One of our latest exercises has been writing captions for photographs. I thought this would make great posts as I love sharing my family photographs.

Description 

Black and white portrait card of Admiral Mansel seated at a chair holding a walking stick in his right hand and papers in his left. He wears a suit, is white haired with a beard and ancient. The card is signed in ink.

Caption for picture

Black and white portrait card of Admiral Mansel in old age. Thomas Mansel (1783-1869) was the 7th of 11 children of Sir William Mansel, Baronet. He entered the Navy in 1798, he served under Lord Nelson at the battle of Copenhagen, and travelled to every quarter of the globe.

Comments

I adore this photograph as I have many of this type but all un-named except this one and one of his son. I like to think he was a very grand man as this photograph is so serious but I’ll never know!

 

Griffiths Valuation of Ireland

I’ve heard of the Griffiths Valuation of Ireland before and I know they can be quite useful for family historians but that’s all I know.

Somehow I came across the following reference for Killea, County Waterford –

Young Matthew Dunmore Killea Waterford

no dates or amount just an entry

I’m sure this is significant I’m just not sure what it really means or how I can find out more. Presumably it relates to Matthew Young (1786-1855)  who was a Commander in the Royal Navy. Another thing to add to my ‘to do’ list.

 

How googling is great for family history

Although I started my family history research years ago I’m amazed how often I find new results from a quick google of an evening. Sometimes I’ll look at my MacFamilyTree programme to spot any missing entries for marriages or deaths.

Sometimes I think I have all the facts  when there are actually glaring omissions I really should have established at the beginning of my research.

I have a son of a Baronet who was also a member of the Royal Navy in my tree who I can often find information about – Thomas Mansel (1783-1869). However I just realised I had never discovered the date of his marriage to Selina Fleming Leigh.

I turned to google this evening and after trawling through a couple of pages of results I found an entry for Thomas Mansel and Selina Leigh at St James, Birdham, Sussex on the 28th June 1827. I never knew they had a connection to Birdham so that was interesting to discover. The information came from a transcription of the Birdham St James Marriage Register (page 17, entry 49). There weren’t as many details as usually found on a marriage certificate but there was the following:

Thomas Mansel bachelor living in Birdham

Selena Flemming Leigh spinster living in Birdham

Conducted by William Miller

Type Licence

no details for name or occupation of either father

Witnesses William Lush and Catherine Elizabeth Mansel

Peninsula War Prisoner of War records

According to his entry in the British Naval Biographical Dictionary, 1849, Matthew Young

“On 20 Oct. 1807, while in charge of a prize Indiaman, … was captured by the enemy and taken to France, where he was detained a prisoner until May, 1814.”

This intriguing little nugget throws up some interesting questions.

Such as are there any records of PoWs from this time and was he entitled to a medal for his imprisonment?

His son, Alfred Young, was apparently born in 1811 in Verdun, France.