St Mary’s Church, Harefield

We were able to re-visit the pretty parish church of St Mary’s in Harefield today. One of my relatives, Elizabeth Bell, was married to William Mansel in the church in 1791. I have been unable to find any information about her or her parents, John and Elizabeth Bell.

St Mary's Church, Harefield, Middlesex, England

We popped into the church (dog-friendly so the dog came too!) and discovered a marble monument on the wall as well as a hatchment for John Bell.

Here is the marble monument:

John Bell monument

and here is the hatchment to John Bell near by:

hatchment for John Bell 1800

The coat of arms is rather lovely, featuring three bells on the left side and three stags heads of the right, and we may be able to use this to discover more about John and Elizabeth Bell.

Edited – I contacted the College of Arms about the coat of arms of Thomas Bell. I received an immediate response that there was a charge of £350 for them to do any research on my behalf. I kindly declined the offer and will add this to my list of areas to research one day 🙂

Welsh Heroes of the War, 1916

It feels like I’ve had a little break from my family history research recently. However as I’m still paying a monthly fee to Ancestry I wanted to keep logging in and looking at hints, in case anything interesting came up.

The relationship between my grandfather, Henry Harper Young, and his appearance on the 1921 census in Wales, has always intrigued me. His younger brother appeared at the same address on the 1911 census, and the relationship is listed as nephew to the head of the household, John Underhill.

I found his photograph on p2 of the Western Mail, published 5th August 1916 (found via Find My Past).

heores of the war

I already have this photograph of his, but interestingly it also states”the adopted son of Mr and Mrs J Underhill”.

I don’t think this can have been a formal adoption. I’m not sure what the connection was between the Underhill family and ours, I’ve started a basic family tree but cannot find any way they could have known of each other.

When Alfred Young was killed in the First World War and the sum of 5shillings a week was paid to his father who lived in Portsmouth.

I have the next of kin memorial plaque and medals awarded to Alfred Young, alongside a couple of photographs of him in uniform. These must have been sent to his father, or claimed by his father, which surely he did as legal guardian/father.

I’m not sure what this suggests about an ‘adoption’ between the two families. The official school leaving age at this time was 14, this coincides with the death of his mother in 1909. With his father working full time as a labourer in the dock yard and a younger brother of 12 to look after, perhaps he was sent away to work with an old family friend?

 

A snippet from the Old Bailey Proceedings Online

As my family tree grows larger and larger I am fortunate to find some really interesting records outside of the usual family history sites. One such interesting record is from the Old Bailey Proceedings Online.

Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 9.0) March 1846. Trial of JOHN GREENING (t18460330-828). Available at: https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/record/t18460330-828 (Accessed: 21st April 2025).

John Greening was indicted for stealing a certain post letter, containing an elastic strap and buckle, value 6d.; 3 pieces of printed paper, 1d.; 2 written invoices, 1d.; and 1 letter, 1d.; the property of Her Majesty’s Postmaster-General.—2nd and 3rd COUNTS, for embezzling and secreting the same.—4th COUNT, for stealing the said goods out of the letter.—5th COUNT, for stealing the said letter and goods; the property of the Right Hon. Edward Granville, Earl of St. Germains, Her Majesty’s Postmaster-General; he being employed under the Post Office.

The letter was sent by Lady Sarah Jeffery Medlycott, the wife of Sir William Coles Medlycott, Bart., residing at Venn-house, Milbourn Port.

The account is interesting to read and gives extra insight to the lives on my ancestors. Poor John Greening was found guilty and imprisoned for a year.

Medlycott family vault in the Church of St John

This is my final post about Medlycott ancestors connected to the Church of St John in the pretty village of Milborne Port. In the church graveyard we found one large grave, almost hidden by yew trees which surrounded it. It looked to be made of granite and was inscribed around the top with the following names:

W.C.R.M. 8 Jan 1887 aged 55

S.J.M. 13 May 1879 aged 72

W.C.M.  23 Dec 1882 aged 76

E.D.M. {x} Feb 1902 aged 89

M.E.M. 1 May 1912 aged 78

Medlycott family vault

Medlycott family vault

Medlycott family vault

Medlycott family vault

I will need to identify the family members who were buried here in the Victorian times.

More about the Church of St John, Milborne Port

Following on from my post yesterday I wanted to write a little more about the Church of St John, Milborne Port. The church is full of memorials to different members of the Medlycott family. It was really exciting to walk around and spot them.

The first memorial I found was to George Medlycott, Gent, First Lieutenant in Colonel Moretes Regiment of Marines. Also of Thomas Medlycott, son of Thomas Medlycott of Ven, who died 1741.

Medlycott family memorial

A memorial to Sir William Coles Medlycott; his wife Dame Elizabeth Medlycott; Sarah Jeffrey, wife of Sir William Coles Medlycott; Sir William Coles Medlycott, 2nd Baronet.

Medlycott family memorial

In memory of Ann Medlycott, relict of James Medlycott of Ven (died 1758); of Elizabeth, second wife of Thomas Medlycott of Ven (died 1763); of Thomas Medlycott, eldest son of James Medlycott of Ven (died 1763); of Thomas Mervin Medlycott, second son of T.H. Medlycott of Ven (died 1793); of T.H.Medlycott of Ven, eldest son of John Hutchings of Sherborne; Thomas Mervin son of William Coles Medlycott (died 1798); of Elizabeth eldest daughter of William ….; of Mary Hutchings Medlycott ….

Medlycott family memorial

Thomas Medlycott of Abingdon, died 1716. Of James Medlycott (died 1731). Of James Medlycott (died 1729).

Medlycott family memorial

These were the most significant memorials I could find on my quick visit to the Church of St John at Milborne Port. I can’t wait to see how these fit into my family tree.

Church of St John, Milborne Port

When I was researching one of my Mansel ancestors I discovered a connection to Ven House, Milborne Port. As we were recently holidaying in the area we stopped to take a look around this historic village of Milborne Port and the Church of St John.

Fortunately the church was open so we were able to get inside.

Church of St John, Milborne Port

It was a very pretty church.

Church of St John, Milborne Port

It didn’t take long to find links to the Medlycott family from nearby Ven House (sadly not open to the public). This stained glass window was dedicated to Edward Bradford Medlycott.

Church of St John, Milborne Port

The church was full of memorials to the Medlycott family (more of which later), then we headed to look round the churchyard. Just beyond this was a small area with a very high wall and it was a ball court!

ball court at Church of St John, Milborne Port

According to a plaque on the wall, the ball court was built by Sir W.C.Medlycott in the year 1847. “It is earnestly hoped that this court which is meant for the health and amusement of the town will be protected from injury’.

I have never seen a ball court before. One side of it looked to be built against an old pub. Today it was a public space with benches.